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Hey everyone!

You may have read our Announcement of the Fureraba release date. 


You can use this post to discuss it ^_^

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:o A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.

Free fandisc for early/pre-ordering is a cool idea. Thanks for getting the chance to TL that as well!

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when'll be available(pre-order) @ steam? is there a physical release? daki's and other stuff when'll they be available for purchase?

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2 hours ago, bakauchuujin said:

If this ends up getting a physical release at a later date it would be really nice if the physical release also included the FD.

That would be even better. :) 

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21 hours ago, AngeTime said:

Do you have an idea when Fureraba will be up for preorder? Maybe 2 weeks before it releases?

We aren't sure yet when the preorders will be up on each individual site, but you can rest assured that we will give you enough time to preorder ^_^

 

19 hours ago, Aialize said:

when'll be available(pre-order) @ steam? is there a physical release? daki's and other stuff when'll they be available for purchase?

We are currently waiting for approval from Steam... So whenever that's finished we will start setting up a product page!
Like we said in our QA for Fureraba, we already discussed the matter of physical releases with Hooksoft and they loved the idea.
But for now we lack the storage capacity for physical goodies, but we will resolve that matter in the next months.



 

 

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I'm glad that more Japanese companies are allowing their releases to be published outside of Japan. Kudos to Hooksoft :) 

By the way, I wonder how many VN companies there are in Japan? There must be hundreds!

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Looking forward to preordering  your first VN release! Thankfully it's one of the no mosaic ones so I can support you right off the bat!

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"we underestimated the extends of German bureaucracy" Well... I hope you're not referring to the USK rating agency and that you were so crazy to apply for a rating there. If you really did this fatal mistake PLEASE don't do it in the future.

There are some things you should know about the German age rating system. The USK is currently on an "anime hate trip" and games that were previously rated 16 are now refused and pronounced child porn. The reason for this change might be a recent(summer 2016) change to the child porn laws to include fictional characters that look underage("real" age doesn't matter) and a new posing offense. This new constellation allows nearly everything with anime and a touch of ecchi to be labeled as child porn. At the moment the USK not that strict to apply it to the standard "school girl falls and you see her panties" scenario but I highly recommend to simply live in the twilight and not risk to be pushed into the darkness(see ratings below). Also if they would find out about the steam patch, the game would be an instant "Liste D" game and some feminazis might even go to curt. I also provide you with an overview of all possible "ratings":

0, 6, 12, 16, 18 - These are the only real ratings assigned by the USK and their only restriction is the age they represent. Also any parent can legally buy his adolescent child a game rated above it's real age.

Liste A, Liste C - Every unrated game will be treated as Liste A and therefore can only be sold/possessed to/by adults(18+) in separated storefronts and can't be advertised. Liste A is a public list containing only the Games refused by the USK and categorized as Liste A(as mentioned all unrated games are also Liste A even if they are not listed there). Liste C is a hidden list but has the same repressions as Liste A.

Liste B, Liste D - Games categorized as Liste B are prohibited to sold inside Germany but every adult can import and possess them legally as long as nobody else can see him playing it. Playing the game in front of someone counts as distribution and is prohibited (you are allowed to play it by your self!). Games in this sections are treated as likely illegal, but they are legal until a curt declares them to be illegal (or legal which would automatically change them to List A). Also after 25 years or a new rating request, the game will be changed to Liste A or the new rating result. Liste D is the hidden variant of Liste B like Liste C for Liste A.

Beschlagnahmt - These games are to be confiscated(ger. beschlagnahmen) and therefor not allowed at all. Only a curt can pronounce a game confiscated if they deem them to break German laws. While the uncut version of fureraba would likely break german laws, as long as nobody goes actively to a curt, a game will never end up confiscated.

Now you might say "Well if we'll be placed on Liste A because we only want a rating for the steam version what does it matter? Steam sells unrated(Liste A) games.", but you're wrong. Steam forces it's own rules on publishers and therefore auto-bans games with swastikas or games officially(!) listed on Liste A to D. You advised to keep things unrated and therefor not be physically listed on Liste A. You won't face any problems on steam if you haven't got an USK rating. You can even publish games that would be categorized as Liste B like Dies Irae. Dies Irae contains SS-runes which are also "prohibited" like swastikas but they never tried to get their rating and chose the store screenshots to not show them(even if they would be visible steam thinks that only swastikas are "prohibited").

There are only TWO real reasons to apply for an USK rating:
1. You want to sell hardcopys directly inside germany(export to germany is fine without USK).
2. You want to release your game on console. Sadly every console requires an USK rating for their games.
(3. You definitely(!) know that your game will receive at least rating 18 and want to life with a completely reassured mind that nothing can ever happen to your game. (As mentioned above, games that already had their identical first parts rated as 16 are now refused. The rated first parts would also share this fate but they have already been rated and therefore are safe forever))

To conclude my extremely long comment: Don't let your games be rated for Germany, Australia and New Zeeland as long as you only wan't to distribute them international and not directly inside those states.

On another note, it would be great if you could bring the uncut(!) version to gog.com. While I'll be waiting on the hardcopy version, I recommend to support them as a DRM free alternative to steam.

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Really annoying that the west has so many stupid rules regarding fictional things. Honestly given some of the laws I am kind of surprised Game of Thrones or old fiction with young characters having sex like Romeo and Juliet isn't banned.

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19 hours ago, Onii-chan said:

"we underestimated the extends of German bureaucracy" Well... I hope you're not referring to the USK rating agency and that you were so crazy to apply for a rating there. If you really did this fatal mistake PLEASE don't do it in the future.

 

 Don't worry ^_^ It had nothing to do with the USK.

 

19 hours ago, Onii-chan said:

On another note, it would be great if you could bring the uncut(!) version to gog.com. While I'll be waiting on the hardcopy version, I recommend to support them as a DRM free alternative to steam.

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We're also big fans of gog.com but unfortunately, they won't accept any visual novels. There were threads about that on the gog forums in the past too so if you're interested you can look into that for more information. Right now we are looking for more storefronts where we could make the uncut version available for purchase! ^_^

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17 hours ago, bakauchuujin said:

Really annoying that the west has so many stupid rules regarding fictional things. Honestly given some of the laws I am kind of surprised Game of Thrones or old fiction with young characters having sex like Romeo and Juliet isn't banned.

Well the new laws were made to soothe the dumb mass after some crazy child-raper has been captured. The first versions for these harsher laws would have been applyable for everything that might turn someone on and features something human like that can't be distinguished to 200% from a child. Because the terminology used, it could be interpreted for everyone under the visual age of 30 and at least an B-cup(both a bit exaggerated) and a lot of protest came up from women rights organisation about the breast stuff. The later version were then tamed down a bit and finally the current bull-crap passed.

Regarding Game of Thrones, well it's the same as with Twich: YanderSimulator got banned for pantie-shoots while Conan Exile futures complete nudity and clearly breaks Twich's rules, but it's popular so nothing happens. For Rome and Juliet, the German laws are only in regards to depiction(as far as I know), you can write all the crazy shit you want like children-gang-rape in the original "IT"-book. Funfact: In Germany printed books have no age restriction while their identical e-books have one, because they are telemedia for which the movie rating organisation FSK is responsible...

 

3 hours ago, Neb Neb said:

 Don't worry ^_^ It had nothing to do with the USK.

That's a relief :D

3 hours ago, Neb Neb said:

We're also big fans of gog.com but unfortunately, they won't accept any visual novels. There were threads about that on the gog forums in the past too so if you're interested you can look into that for more information. Right now we are looking for more storefronts where we could make the uncut version available for purchase! ^_^

I was already wondering, why only so few have been released there, so thanks for this disturbing info :(

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Not sure where to buy this later.

I like Steam keeping track of my games, and pushing them to host less murder simulators and more love simulators. But I'm also a bit curious at giving FAKKU a chance, mostly because they are not Nutaku. But you seem to claim you want people to use your own storefront and offer fan discs there. Making it difficult to choose.

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Just now, Malamasala said:

Not sure where to buy this later.

I like Steam keeping track of my games, and pushing them to host less murder simulators and more love simulators. But I'm also a bit curious at giving FAKKU a chance, mostly because they are not Nutaku. But you seem to claim you want people to use your own storefront and offer fan discs there. Making it difficult to choose.

Why not all of them? :^) 

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On 3/16/2018 at 12:00 PM, alchemicalhaze said:

Any idea when preorder will be up again?

It seems it's a complicated process to get a decent payment processor for adult content and we are gathering all the required documents right now, but sadly we can't really say when the preorders will be back up again. We will keep you guys updated of course! 

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Btw I just wanted to mention that it is somewhat possible to use paypal to buy eroge. For some reason I can't use my debit card on Mangagamer, however I can ask their support to buy MG points on paypal. That way I buy the points I need to buy the VNs I want through paypal. Ofc you should have an actual payment processor, but if the payment processor ends up having similar limitations to the one MG has, I gues adding a point system could help make more people able to buy from your store.

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6 minutes ago, MichaelBlueTheKing said:

Maybe I'm just being stupid but... can't you ask Denpasoft how they do it? xD

Denpa uses ccbill, but I think they had some problems with selling physicals because of it. Something about them not getting to sell physicals because the bankers thought Nekopara was bestiality or something like that.

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