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Seems Steam's policy towards Visual Novels is changing.

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Read this today at mangagamers blog: http://blog.mangagamer.org/2018/05/18/regarding-recent-inquires-into-steam-content-policy-notices/

Steam already removed one mangagamer title earlier this year from the store, and according to the blog post, it seems not only mangagamer have had troubles recently with getting VN's approved for Steam releases.

Sad develoupment honestly :-(  there is so much questionable content on steam already, but anime nipples seem to be much worse :P

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2 hours ago, Tamaki Sakura said:

This is so hypocritical.

This is about money. Qustion is  - How NekoNyan gonna respond to this? Are u gonna stil aim to put ur future titles on Steam?

Correct. Not money, but this

https:twitter.com/ncose/status/997484630273032192

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It starts to get funny. Mods are deleting any my post considering my reference to it. They dont wanna ppl going there and start shitstorm at ncose profile. Censoring is bad.

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Can't believe I had to wake up this morning to see this on my Twitter feed. I knew Steam's treatment of localized VNs have been less than ideal, but this policy change is simply asinine. What's worse is that cnose actually thinks this is an accomplishment. I can't see an upside to this for anyone besides politically-correct ignoramuses that have deluded themselves into thinking that this is an improvement to the gaming community and Western society. 

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The two mangagamer titles are both Yuri ones, considering whats actually being left on steam, one got to wonder at times. and neither one of them have anything even remotley close to rape, violence incest or trafficking.

I mean Kindred spirits's adult scenes couldn't even fit the softcore porn label if they tried....

Now i buy most of my visual novels on non steam platforms already. But when available on steam i do tend to go there for the convenience.

At times i wonder if it's the availability of the adult patches publishers make available to go around the steam policy that might have been one of the factors for this move.

It might be that in the end, you will need to go to mangagamer, denpasoft etc for the adult versions and you only get the all ages editions on steam with no patch availability.

But i'm all for mangagamers initiative inviting develoupers and publishers to work with them, both frontwing and sekai have been using Denpasoft for some titles and having a few large publishing storefronts would be good.

So i'm hoping smaller studious will take up mangagamers offer and they can come to a resonable deal, as Mangagamer will probably want a piece of the cake for taking care of the sales and such, which is completly understandable.

Will be interesting too see where this goes, as i'm sure Visual novels are only the first target, things like this tend to reach absurd heights at times.

And as allways, seeing a boob, is clearly more damaging to the mind of a teenager then blowing up people by the hundreds :P Western logic may it die quickly.

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49 minutes ago, CrazyYanmega said:

 

I... what? I can't even fathom what these people are thinking.

My guess would be: Nothing
If you can scream and point your fingers at an already dead opponent, do reasons really matter if you have the chance for your 5 seconds of internet fame? And if you can push your totally intolerant view of forced tolerance on everybody, all the more reason.

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1 hour ago, CrazyYanmega said:

I... what? I can't even fathom what these people are thinking.

Simple, they want to believe they're doing some good for society, so they go for the easy targets. Actual results don't matter, it's all for self-satisfaction.

And between taking the effort to better inform and prepare our youth on matters regarding violence and sex-related issues and complaining about the mediums that supposedly promotes them, which option is easier, cheaper, and doesn't require you to stick your neck out?

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As most people are aware, we had some problems getting Fureraba approved last month. The first build we submitted was already completely harmless compared to other VNs on Steam, so I'm pretty sure they have been applying their new policy for a while now. It's only now that they're taking actions against titles that are already on Steam though.

It's definitely not a good change for VN localizers, but it's also not as bad as it's made out to be right now. You were allowed to show more borderline sexual content than on console platforms so far, but now you need to do the censoring like JP vita/PS4 ports are doing it. If your game is then complying with, for instance, Sony guidelines, you could also get a rating no problem and it's rather unlikely that Valve is going to reject rated titles.

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6 hours ago, akerou said:

but now you need to do the censoring like JP vita/PS4 ports are doing it. If your game is then complying with, for instance, Sony guidelines, you could also get a rating no problem and it's rather unlikely that Valve is going to reject rated titles.

So you think we'd see a rise of Vita/PS4 ports instead of PC versions with cut ero-content for all ages titles?
That would be great for me since those ports most of the time have more CGs to replace the H-CGs and extra Routes. Licensing all ages and 18+ would really increase the costs though.

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6 hours ago, Nelico said:

So you think we'd see a rise of Vita/PS4 ports instead of PC versions with cut ero-content for all ages titles?
That would be great for me since those ports most of the time have more CGs to replace the H-CGs and extra Routes. Licensing all ages and 18+ would really increase the costs though.

Depends on the dev and which company is holding the extra content rights, but it's usually either no extra costs or minimal extra costs at most. The only reason we don't have the psv content of Fureraba is that the company that did the vita port closed down years ago and neither Hooksoft nor the new IP holder had the data.

In fact, we already have a few titles that we are going to announce this fall for which we have the psv content. I personally believe that many PS4/vita ports are better than the original PC releases because of things like better pacing and flow, and we'll always try to get all the extra content if there is any.

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I Can't understand why nobody create yet an Steam only for Visual novels and put end to this butchering and censored on the job of japanese developers.
This is pretty uncomfortable, I don't know how gonna react the japanese developers.

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1 hour ago, Toshibe said:

I Can't understand why nobody create yet an Steam only for Visual novels and put end to this butchering and censored on the job of japanese developers.
This is pretty uncomfortable, I don't know how gonna react the japanese developers.

And we can call it 「霧」(steam) instead. :smug:

But I'm not sure how well such an arrangement would be. Steam is a convenient medium for VNs largely because of how well-known it is. Many people become VN readers because they come across something interesting by chance on Steam. If a localized VN wants to maximize profit, the companies will want to all-ageify it and get Valve's approval. A VN-centered equivalent of Steam would basically just be all the localization companys' catalogs all in one place right? Other than a slight increase in convenience, there's not much difference there.

The Japanese companies will probably be a bit more hesitant in releasing titles to the West now that the most well-known distribution platform is out on a witch hunt. Not being on Steam means less profit, and if they can't see a localization project making a net profit, they're less likely to put in the time and resources. 

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1 hour ago, Tsukishiro said:

And we can call it 「霧」(steam) instead. :smug:

But I'm not sure how well such an arrangement would be. Steam is a convenient medium for VNs largely because of how well-known it is. Many people become VN readers because they come across something interesting by chance on Steam. If a localized VN wants to maximize profit, the companies will want to all-ageify it and get Valve's approval. A VN-centered equivalent of Steam would basically just be all the localization companys' catalogs all in one place right? Other than a slight increase in convenience, there's not much difference there.

The Japanese companies will probably be a bit more hesitant in releasing titles to the West now that the most well-known distribution platform is out on a witch hunt. Not being on Steam means less profit, and if they can't see a localization project making a net profit, they're less likely to put in the time and resources. 

Steamed hams novels

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Looks like steam has send a notice to all involved parties asking them to disregard the #waifuholocaust. Not sure if this counts as damage control or just taking an arrow to the knee

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15 hours ago, Toshibe said:

I Can't understand why nobody create yet an Steam only for Visual novels and put end to this butchering and censored on the job of japanese developers.
This is pretty uncomfortable, I don't know how gonna react the japanese developers.

Aren't we talking about Nutaku? xD 

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14 hours ago, Tsukishiro said:

and we can call it 「霧」(steam) instead

:ugghh::star::nani2:

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